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Post subject: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: 01-19-11 - Color Popping Naturally
 Posted: 01.11.2011 01:55
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My understanding is multi-colored subjects are fine, but multiple colored subjects are not.
In my mind, Leica's ladder would be great with mopsy's suggested cropping of the rust, but the petals in the gutter I'm not so sure about, but not for the reasons suggested. I find the brown tones, both in the concrete to the right and in the straw a bit to much color for a strict interpretation.
rav's picture is cool. I'd like to see what happened with a higher f-stop so the background was more in focus and you had a similar gray-scale texture matching the color textures  |
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Post subject: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: 01-19-11 - Color Popping Natural
Posted: 01.11.2011 02:04
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olavf wrote: In my mind, Leica's ladder would be great with mopsy's suggested cropping of the rust, but the petals in the gutter I'm not so sure about, but not for the reasons suggested. I find the brown tones, both in the concrete to the right and in the straw a bit to much color for a strict interpretation.
I see where you are coming from on this. I actually thought the straw and one blade of grass gave it too much colour (and I have no intention of using the shot). The brown concrete I am not sure about, and that's mainly the reason why I posted it as an example. True, it's not greyscale or B&W, but it is pretty devoid of colour, enough to make the petals "pop". |
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Post subject: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: 01-19-11 - Color Popping Natural
Posted: 01.11.2011 02:11
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LeicaLens wrote: My own feeling on this is that the pictures will speak for themselves, and if the voters feel that a colour isn't really popping, they won't vote for it.
That may be too optimistic of me...
For my concrete shots, I went for the AWB. Sliding back and forth from 0 saturation to 200 (as the Canon software defines it), there certainly is some color there--I can't imagine any actual color image being without some tonal qualities. But in comparison to the 'pop' portion, it's nil. I found minor color temp adjustments lessened it even more so, though I'm afraid my monitor doesn't see color the way others do; thus I've deferred to Else and Mopsy to preview a page of my wanna-bes for their input.
I agree about letting the pictures speak for themselves. The issue of one color v. many bugs me only in that a brilliant rainbow against a black and white sky seems a color-popping natural fit (it's nature, right?). In fact, were not 'Weather' in the queue, I'd practically insist it be allowed so I could post one I took.
OTOH, I agee w/Else that there must be some line drawn in the color neutral sand. I await the verdict, and am glad this is being hashed out now, so I'll have time to buy some titanium white gesso and Payne's grey acrylics for a suitable background, if necessary. (Even that isn't perfectly neutral, but for hecks sake, it's damned close enough!) |
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Post subject: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: 01-19-11 - Color Popping Nat
Posted: 01.11.2011 02:13
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FWIW I have exactly one picture for this one - that I've taken for the contest anyhow. but I suspect I'm being a bit of a 'purist' to the idea too. I know it's going to be a difficult job for me to take anything else in the next few weeks.
The petals definitely 'pop' but I'm concerned about the tones. If the judges say that's okay, cool, but it's not what I've been thinking.
/I don't know that I'd complain about more leniency though |
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Post subject: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: 01-19-11 - Color Popping Natural
Posted: 01.11.2011 02:21
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olavf wrote: rav's picture is cool. I'd like to see what happened with a higher f-stop so the background was more in focus and you had a similar gray-scale texture matching the color textures
*Oops.* I only took two images, at the same f/, pretty much as afterthoughts as I walked back to my truck. My guess, though, is it wouldn't be as effective, as the concrete did have some small colored rocks in it, and they'd be more pronounced if clearly shown (you can see this in my image as is; bump the saturation to see it better--or worse, as the case may be.)
But thanks! As far as afterthoughts go, I did think it came out rather nicely--better than the tangerine against the white lattice fence that preceded it for 12 frames... |
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Post subject: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: 01-19-11 - Color Popping Nat
Posted: 01.11.2011 02:53
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Gravel works pretty well, too.
Was walking back in October and saw this on the side of the road and immediately thought of this contest. I brought the brick home intending to do more with it, but Alex threw it out before I got around to doing anything with it. |
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Post subject: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: 01-19-11 - Color Popping Natural
Posted: 01.11.2011 03:03
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ravnostic wrote: olavf wrote: rav's picture is cool. I'd like to see what happened with a higher f-stop so the background was more in focus and you had a similar gray-scale texture matching the color textures
*Oops.* I only took two images, at the same f/, pretty much as afterthoughts as I walked back to my truck. My guess, though, is it wouldn't be as effective, as the concrete did have some small colored rocks in it, and they'd be more pronounced if clearly shown (you can see this in my image as is; bump the saturation to see it better--or worse, as the case may be.)
But thanks! As far as afterthoughts go, I did think it came out rather nicely--better than the tangerine against the white lattice fence that preceded it for 12 frames...
Gotcha. I was thinking about the juxtaposition of the color against the almost identically textured background (were it in focus). I didn't realize it would have brought more color in in this case. (think, not criticizing - trying to make good 'better'  )
I've only got one shot so far this week, and that one was painful, so don't feel too bad. I may be lucky to end up with two I'm happy with. |
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Post subject: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: 01-19-11 - Color Popping Natural
Posted: 01.11.2011 03:43
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olavf wrote: I've only got one shot so far this week, and that one was painful, so don't feel too bad. I may be lucky to end up with two I'm happy with.
I'm tickled pink that I will have a tough time this week deciding on the final 5IRO posts--not in what to post--but what to leave out. I feel like any combination of my final 5 would do well, and I don't think that's really happened for me. As I'm dropping off a 70 pt. week in the 'rolling ten', to feel confident in my entries is nice.
Of course, once voting begins, my mood may change. 
As for this one, well there's over a week to go; I'll get input from our resident mod and theme suggester, and there's time to try harder and fail better, as Uranus says. Happy as I am thus far, I'd like to think I might strike gold again (or, in this contest's case, silver or platinum).
The bee'z might come in handy one day when I don't have time to do active contest acquisitioning. |
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Post subject: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: 01-19-11 - Color Popping Nat
Posted: 01.11.2011 10:05
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| Rav, did you get my answer to your posted question. I'm not always sure I do things correctly on some of the other Fark sites. |
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Post subject: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: 01-19-11 - Color Popping Nat
Posted: 01.11.2011 12:04
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| olavf, I definitely want to be purist on this contest. Brown is not monochromatic in the sense that was intended for this (imho). For the sake of participation we may want to stretch the limit, but I think the closer you can get your color photo to looking like something from the "Color Popping" contest, the more successful you will be in voting and growing your eye. |
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Post subject: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: 01-19-11 - Color Popping Nat
Posted: 01.11.2011 12:37
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| Did my brick picture show up? Or is it only on my computer? |
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Post subject: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: 01-19-11 - Color Popping
Posted: 01.11.2011 13:19
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clouddancer wrote: Did my brick picture show up? Or is it only on my computer?
I can see it. and I think it even would work in the contest. I have a feeling mine will all be snow based because I have nothing that looks good any where else. |
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Post subject: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: 01-19-11 - Color Pop
Posted: 01.11.2011 13:25
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I can see it, too, clouddancer, might I suggest bumping the contrast a bit to deepen the red? Or does that bring out colors that aren't supposed to be there in the gravel?
And yes, mopsy I did get your PM message, I've just woken up later in the day as I readjust my clock to nightshift worktimes. I've replied. Haven't checked any other venues yet. |
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Post subject: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: 01-19-11 - Color Popping
Posted: 01.11.2011 15:40
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Kestrana wrote: olavf, I definitely want to be purist on this contest. Brown is not monochromatic in the sense that was intended for this (imho). For the sake of participation we may want to stretch the limit, but I think the closer you can get your color photo to looking like something from the "Color Popping" contest, the more successful you will be in voting and growing your eye.
Those are my thoughts as well. It's going to be difficult to come up with three that are nearly pure grey tones, but I figure the closer I can get, the better. (That's why it's called a 'difficulty', right?  ) |
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Post subject: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: 01-19-11 - Color Pop
Posted: 01.11.2011 20:43
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I actually had an idea for this tonight pop in my head thanks to Kestrana's lovely suggestions and what arrived today via UPS. I might use the shot I come up with out of this, but I won't be offended or take mine out if someone else also decides to do it.
I'm going to get some fresh herb leaves and put them in the small white marble mortar and pestle we have. Hubby requested a bigger one and his new one arrived today that's much bigger, and dark/black granite, so if I were to use that one, it'd be something very bright in color. If you have a mortar and pestle that's not b/w, perhaps putting sea salt crystals or black peppercorns in it or something. Just a thought if anyone wants to use this. |
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